Hi Seb
I’d love to see an autoplay feature where a selection of clips could be put into a group to autoplay, with a set number of bars/beats per clip. We run most of our lighting on an automated basis, using information read from CDJs to trigger different lighting banks, including lasers. I’d really like to be able to activate a corresponding group of liberation clips and have them auto play.
What do you think?
Thanks
Oli
Until there is a super easy solution, as a workaround, I’ll suggest trying building a clip with as many scenes as you can make within in it. Utilize the delay count on the Oscillator, assigned to brightness or however you conceive to do it. I’m getting longer dynamic clips this way, more like phrases rather than short loops from a single press. Maximum delay count is 512 beats, basically giving you 32 x 4 Bar phrases from one clips. You’d need a bit of screen real estate to pull of 32 in one clip.
I’m not sure how high up auto-trigger clips is on my list of feature requests, but I think I’d welcome an auto play feature that lets you select between 3? Quantized durations that would randomly apply (16,24,32 beat ) to the clips on trigger. The length generated applied or a countdown clock would be displayed so you could anticipate change but not at static intervals. Bonus points if you could enable a foot pedal to hold the existing look, and would trigger the next clip on release.
Hey Oli,
I like it. I think eventually you’ll be able to add a Timeline back into the clip deck, so that might be a good approach. But that’s a way off.
Kindest
Seb
Excellent advice re delay count - this is how I’ve achieved multi-scene clips in the past. Thanks @Eyes2theSkies !
Not sure exactly what you mean by clip scenes? I’ve never seen these where might one configure them?
Thanks
Oh do you mean having multiple different starting shapes/points/etc and then using say a square wave oscillator to change the brightness of the shame to effectively make it appear/disappear, then adjust when each one appears/disappears by using the delay? It’s a bit of a hack but I guess it would work, doesn’t seem like there would be any way to randomise it.
You won’t get pure randomness, but you will get different length scenes to your specification out of a single clip.
This Clip has 3 scenes to it. 1 is a panning circle., 2 is a line, 3 is a panning dot
On circle, Add a saw wave to brightness. Set the clamp min : full, clamp max to 90. so it fades down at the end. Set the speed - 8bars. Repeat : 1, delay count 0. This is 32 beats long.
On
On panning dot, copy triangle osc from line, - delay count 48 beats. (32beats from circle, 16 beats from line). Change the speed to 16 bars.
This clip should play through 3 scenes at predetermined, albeit varying lengths and fade to black. Just keeping copying over the triangle osc. to every subsequent scene with the clip.
This same technique on a single scene will yield a highly expansive output.
Appologies if scene isn’t the correct lingo for liberation. I’m an old lighting guy.
Thanks. That is a little cumbersome but I get the idea. I assume the clips will always play in the same order they can’t really be randomised?
I second this… I am mostly doing small scale stuff with 2 to 4 lasers for my own parties. It would be really nice to have an autoplay and randomize feature to go through the clips. I understand that this is a higher end professional software.
However, if this feature isn’t ever planned to be integrated. I might as well go with a more basic software. I have the time to create cool clips and effects. I just don’t have the time to sit and run the lasers all night for small events at my house. Autoplay is a very simple feature to integrate when it comes to programming.
Other than a lighting/laser engineer being hard headed to say autoplay isn’t running lasers. Well… Don’t worry… It won’t make people think your software is any less professional. This is a tool that can be used by all level of skill class and in many different scenarios. I personally feel the lack of autoplay turns a ton of customers away from your software.
That being said. I absolutely love the work flow of it. Autoplay… Just autoplay. That is all I ask. It is a very simple set of code to make it work.
hahaha OK… My rant is over.
Hey @mblakebiellier, glad you’re enjoying Liberation so far! Autoplay is definitely something to consider for the future.
In the meantime you can put clips on the timeline and set it in a loop. Then set the time source to Live and you can tap tempo to keep it in sync.
Hope this helps!
Seb
I never noticed the timeline feature!!! That does help a lot! Thank you!
Hey would you be down to do a screen recording quickly demonstrating the principal idea here? I’m having trouble picturing it
Will do. I should have some time tomorrow.
If you simply want to autoplay clips, timeline is the way to go. In 5 -10 minutes you can create a way more captivating show. Why? Have you ever used an autoplay feature? The ones Ive used, you are stuck with a fixed clip length (grinds my gears after like one minute of watching). When you start adding clip lengths like 6 bars, 12 bars, things become less predictable, yet will hit on time but not always in a predictable manor. Throw in some polyrhythm/polymeter type settings (make a clip 5,7,9 beats long). Also, you can build in blackout fades and leave a beat or 2 of darkness which can give your eyes a break.
As for a video explanation. I’ll be a little longer getting something up. I’d like to spend at least a focused hour and reacquaint myself with the concept with a good or possible use case.
Hey Zak, there’s at least one example of this kind of approach in the default clip deck - check this one of @Stanwax’s clips at position 52,1.
It uses different nodes for a cross, square, circle etc and uses a square wave to turn their brightness on and off at different times. @Eyes2theSkies’ approach is the same but slower.
hope this helps!
Seb
Here is my first ever internet tutorial. It’s unlisted. I hope this is okay Seb…it’s your baby and I’d hate to stray people from your vision. Attached is the clip I made. I used a 3rd party font in the last section.. I’m curious if it will show up on your screen without having the font. Someone please let me know if it works.
I love it, thanks for sharing, super interesting to see how you work. I don’t mind if you make it public.
Seb
